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Jonkan

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Re: feelings on a 441
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2011, 11:04:45 AM »
Love the 441, love beyer m201, love sm7.

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dmp

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Re: feelings on a 441
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2011, 11:55:33 AM »
I have a 441 but most times my sm7b wins out when I've compared the two mics on instruments. Acoustic guitar, vocals.
I definitely like both mics though.
Recently I used the 441 with the HPF on in conjunction with a D12E on upright bass and it worked really well.
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Re: feelings on a 441
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2011, 02:54:20 PM »
I can't get over the street price of the 441.  Not many voice coil mics in that range.   
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pyjaman

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Re: feelings on a 441
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2011, 03:09:22 PM »
+1 on this. It's a very good dynamic mic that I love. But it's about at least twice the price of most of his competitors... I'm planing to find one used at a good price, though...

Laurent.
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MicDaddy

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Re: feelings on a 441
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2011, 08:08:34 PM »
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+1 on this. It's a very good dynamic mic that I love. But it's about at least twice the price of most of his competitors... I'm planing to find one used at a good price, though...

Ditto that, find a decent price on a used one. 

441 is one of my favorites next to the RE55 and RE20

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Winetree

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Re: feelings on a 441
« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2011, 02:08:30 PM »
Bought a pair of 441's in 1981.
Probably only used them 2 or 3 times.
Sounds like I should put them to use.
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pyjaman

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Re: feelings on a 441
« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2011, 09:09:53 AM »
Quote from: MicDaddy on December 14, 2011, 08:08:34 PM
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+1 on this. It's a very good dynamic mic that I love. But it's about at least twice the price of most of his competitors... I'm planing to find one used at a good price, though...

Ditto that, find a decent price on a used one. 

441 is one of my favorites next to the RE55 and RE20

Done! just bought one in good shape for 200 euros. Good add to the mic locker...

Laurent.
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gevermil

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Re: feelings on a 441
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2011, 01:39:03 PM »
RE55 is a cool mic , nice and natural , kinda like the 441 . Too bad its omni though.
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lassoharp

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Re: feelings on a 441
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2011, 06:12:49 PM »
Great sounding mic - the dynamic that sounds like a condenser and just very "correct" sounding in that Sennheiser way.  Be careful not to whack it.  The one I had broke when the mic stand accidentally fell over.  Sennheiser wanted $385 to rebuild.  You'll get very little leeway buying a broken one.  Like the 421 there's a price lock in the used market.   I don't think the shape was very popular compared to RE20 & SM7.  Tom Petty & Stevie Nicks apparently liked them, or at least their engineer did - for those who recall '82.
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jensenmann

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Re: feelings on a 441
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2011, 12:48:11 PM »
I remember a video with the ABBA girls singing into 441s in the studio. But who knows what mike they did use for recording.
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warpie

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Re: feelings on a 441
« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2011, 07:53:45 PM »
Have you noticed 441 having lower output than other dynamics (i.e 57 or 58)?
Is it just mine?  :-\
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lassoharp

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Re: feelings on a 441
« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2011, 08:21:14 PM »
Quote from: warpie on December 20, 2011, 07:53:45 PM
Have you noticed 441 having lower output than other dynamics (i.e 57 or 58)?
Is it just mine?  :-\

They do, just as SM-7 does relative to 57/58.  I got mine in trade for some cheap AKG 58 copy because the person thought it "sucked" as a PA vocal mic.  :o   Happens when you're used to hearing hot output and big bumps in the highs and lows.
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warpie

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Re: feelings on a 441
« Reply #32 on: December 20, 2011, 09:04:50 PM »
ok, thanks. Feel better now...  :)
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grantlack

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Re: feelings on a 441
« Reply #33 on: December 24, 2011, 01:36:06 AM »
Quote from: emrr on December 14, 2011, 02:54:20 PM
I can't get over the street price of the 441.  Not many voice coil mics in that range.

the 'vintage tax' definitely makes it difficult to justify (for me anyway)... as much as i like the mic, it's not like you can't get in the same territory with different mics.  and this thread probably added another $25.   :-X
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tchgtr

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Re: feelings on a 441
« Reply #34 on: December 24, 2011, 02:02:46 PM »
What!? Does nobody record saxophone anymore? Years ago I put a 421 on one of my fave sax players in the studio, and he suggested a 441, which he carried around with him. After using that, I went out a bought a used one for $250 and never looked back. Perfect sax sound every time, no matter which sax. Very little need for EQ when mixing.
Tried it on a bass cab, but wasn't crazy about the results. Maybe it was bad placement.   
Haven't used it on much else, but will try it on drums after reading this thread.

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gar381

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Re: feelings on a 441
« Reply #35 on: December 26, 2011, 12:04:25 AM »
Quote from: tchgtr on December 24, 2011, 02:02:46 PM
What!? Does nobody record saxophone anymore? Years ago I put a 421 on one of my fave sax players in the studio, and he suggested a 441, which he carried around with him.after using that, I went out a bought a used one for $250 and never looked back. Perfect sax sound every time, no matter which sax. Very little need for EQ when mixing. 

Finally.. some one said sax !!  Great on both tenor and alto.
Used those a lot in the old dayz for SR for Al Garth.  Roll off a bit of 1200Hz
perfect.

GARY
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mulletchuck

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Re: feelings on a 441
« Reply #36 on: December 26, 2011, 01:42:38 AM »
Even more so than Ribbon or Tube mics?
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tchgtr

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Re: feelings on a 441
« Reply #37 on: December 26, 2011, 07:53:14 PM »
I like ribbons a lot for brass and guitar speakers, and usually use my tube mics for room mics on drums and some vocals, but on sax the 441 is a standard for me after my experiences with it. Might try a ribbon for an older tone, if somebody wanted a nostalgia vibe...
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Re: feelings on a 441
« Reply #38 on: December 27, 2011, 02:46:30 AM »
Anyone else have a royer 121 and think it sounds kinda dark on brass?
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stefan

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Re: feelings on a 441
« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2011, 08:14:54 AM »
I love mine, possibly the only mic I own that could record any source.   
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