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analag

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The Secret
« on: June 28, 2012, 02:13:38 PM »
What is the secret of sound quality...anybody found it yet?
Audio engineering suffers from misinformation, disinformation, and downright lying more than most fields of endeavour.


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Re: The Secret
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2012, 02:20:09 PM »
A great performance?

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Re: The Secret
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2012, 02:21:41 PM »
expensive cables.
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Re: The Secret
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2012, 02:23:42 PM »
good musicians?
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Re: The Secret
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2012, 02:25:37 PM »
good musicians?
Now THOSE are hard to find.
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Re: The Secret
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2012, 02:30:01 PM »
good musicians?
Now THOSE are hard to find.

Yes, and they always need a lot of beer...  ;D

pucho812

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Re: The Secret
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2012, 02:34:45 PM »
good musicians?
Now THOSE are hard to find.

Yes, and they always need a lot of beer...  ;D

well their natural habitat is slowly being destroyed, so it is rare to find one.
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tmuikku

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Re: The Secret
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2012, 02:51:17 PM »
State of mind

warpie

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Re: The Secret
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2012, 03:11:20 PM »
an mp3 player...  ::)

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Re: The Secret
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2012, 03:20:16 PM »
It's not a secret in the objective realm, but not much agreement over which simple metrics matter and how.

I believe the typical playback system is critically flawed so routinely incapable of perfectly reproducing a different (more) dimensional event in a different (size/acoustics/whatever) space.

Different mechanisms (like stereophony) reinforce useful psychoacoustic illusions of spatial orientation suggesting realism but the evaluation of this is subjective and personal so trying to make objective sense of squishy subjective mechanisms is difficult.

Double blind tests are crude pass/fail and help objectify this only a little, but brings little relief to the almost religious pursuit of single hardware solutions to an inordinately complex systemic problem.

While i doubt this is a popular answer but maybe there is no pot of gold at the end of this rainbow. We can do an arbitrarily good job the more strictly and finely we define the task. For example I suspect we could do a decent job of recreating a string quartet in our living room with a handful of specialized playback transducers positioned appropriately. This synthesized players metaphor might cover small jazz and rock groups. Larger more complex tasks, would be proportionately more difficult.

or not...  I can't even be certain concise !:! realism is exactly what people want... and some genre of music and/or recordings do not really exist as an acoustic event outside the control room, so playback, is literally creating the acoustic event from electrical squiggles in media, or perhaps recreating the control room-monitor acoustic environment.
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Or we could just relax and listen to the music, instead of the hardware.

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Re: The Secret
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2012, 03:55:28 PM »
What is the secret of sound quality...anybody found it yet?

Yes, but I can't tell you because then it would no longer be a secret.

Cheers

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Re: The Secret
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2012, 04:20:38 PM »

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Re: The Secret
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2012, 05:19:26 PM »
TL 072
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Re: The Secret
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2012, 05:38:05 PM »
A cat!

Everything sounds better with a cat on it.*



Black cat for bass, tabby for treble, tortie for a bit of lower mid oomph.

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Re: The Secret
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2012, 06:44:40 PM »
The secret of sound quality...musicians, musical instruments, microphones.

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Re: The Secret
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2012, 07:15:48 PM »
 
A cat!

wow! that's a really beautiful cat

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Re: The Secret
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2012, 08:30:58 PM »
Dedication, and humility.

IMO every person who says they've just finished the perfect mix, or is "as good as they are ever going to get" is wrong.

To be better than everyone else, you have to realize that you aren't, and never will be, but pursue that ideal regardless.

Attention to detail, actually caring about what you are doing etc. are all not scientifically measurable quantities, however, I would argue that, along with talent, even though you might not be able to measure these things with numbers, I'd argue that you can hear them.

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Re: The Secret
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2012, 09:25:25 PM »
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Yes, but I can't tell you because then it would no longer be a secret.


Best Answer.   8)

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Re: The Secret
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2012, 09:39:57 PM »
Talent.. Just plain ol' talent. 


analag

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Re: The Secret
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2012, 08:40:35 AM »
I am preparing myself for a journey into distortion from which I fear I will not return.
Audio engineering suffers from misinformation, disinformation, and downright lying more than most fields of endeavour.