Brown Dual Pre with Vibro

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alexc

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Hi

Been working for several weeks on a great project - a 2u box  :

first    channel of brown fender super      preamp + harmonic vibrato and an additional gain stage
second channel of brown fender bassman preamp

each with a white cathode follower line amp output.

Edcor power traffo and 15K:600 op traffos.

Really an interesting journey, from the 68K input resistors to the tone stack to the
2.5 tube vibrato to the la2a output stages.

I have been trying different stuff out - learning and relearning the basics, but especially
playing, listening and watching the analyser ... all thru a Motu 2408MkII to old EL84 pp hifi amp
and cheapish but OK 3way hifi speakers.

I have to say - for a 48 year old design, the sound is simply amazing.

The harmonic trem is outstanding.

Enough good to sustain several weeks of tweaking and learning the fender brown basics first hand.

I plan to use it with 2 chns of sta-level compression and effects pedals.

The experience has made me feel stupid, smart and lucky!

Man it's good to be alive and diy!

Put some pics up shortly.

So happy  :)


 
some pics

pre_inside1.jpg


pre_outside1.jpg


pre_outside2.jpg


I used bits and pieces I had lying around and a cheap rack.

The bassman channel is from the fender/marshall (jtm45) with an la2a amp added

The vibrotwin is from the fender brown super/twin, the one with the tapped treble pot
in the tone stack and the 2.5 tube "harmonic vibrato", again with the la2a amp section added
and some switching.

I wanted to use a tube rectifier and choke and all that, even tho it's not needed.

I use it as a clean channel and an effects channel by bridging the inputs and taking the
outputs to a mixer.

Just have to complete the gain staging in the vibro twin and button it up
(clean up the B+ wiring and resistors)

Pretty cheap to do and absolutely sounds great. Noise is pretty reasonable
at typical usage setup for 22dB overall gain with -68dBu noise floor.

I really wanted to see how quiet a hastily wired box with lots of interconnects
and unshielded edcor traffos would be with a decent sized edcor power traffo
(75mA 300-0-300V, 3A 6.3V, 2.5A 5V). It uses about 45mA of HV all up.

I was pleasantly surprised. I imagine better layout and wiring would drop
that a couple of dB, but perfectly fine as it is.

PSU decoupling was very important due to the vibro oscillator - hence all the B+
wires so I could try out a bunch of schemes. Still could benefit with the HPF
from the voxac30 tacked to output of vibro to reduce the oscillator punching
thru into audio.

Surprisingly stable grounding - moving grounds around made virtually no
improvement or detriment. Noise optimising was all about PSU decoupling.

I really love using eyelet board and wires.

Next stop - a dual sta-gates style limiter to go with it

Thanks for checking it out!



 
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